Musings on the Most Ridiculous Band I Can't Stop Listening To

Copping Some Good Shit

Holy shit. This shit here is the shit. Shit. Goddamn.

Get off your ass and jam?

Absolutely, yes.

We should do Thoughts on the P-Funk.

Totally.

You promised the nice people Van Halen.

I know and I got the new book about their early days and it’s coming up, but someone sent me an innocuous e-mail this morning and now I need to listen to every Scarlet>Fire ever played.

You are highly suggestible.

I have made it a point to never be hypnotized.

Talk about the S>F.

IT IS SO GOOD!

Trenchant analysis.

It’s fast as hell and doesn’t slow down for Fire; most versions do and it kills the momentum, but this one seems to actually be speeding up. Mickey is MVM (Most Valuable Mickey) of this one, thrashing his toms in triplet thunder and egging Billy and the rest of them on.

Sometimes Phil plays some notes, and that is good, but here he plays ALL THE NOTES and that is so, so much better. Phil’s notes bop and bwump way down low and Garcia’s notes dwee and wah-oo all the way up top and the rest of them are in the middle and the drummers are beautiful and all is beautiful and so very loud.

There is also MIDI bullshit, which is awesome. TotD is now declaring this the BEST EVAR Scarlet>Fire.

31 Comments

  1. spencer

    https://youtu.be/C_SfZ60iWE0

  2. J. Eric Smith

    I listen to these, and then I look at the songwriting credits and see “Hunter/Hart” for the “Fire” bits, and then my head explodes, because the universe makes no sense anymore.

    • thoughtsonthedead

      There are only two chords in the whole song. Even Mickey could write this tune.

      • J. Eric Smith

        But why would he bother? Getting paid royalties for 30 seconds of studio “Antwerp’s Placebo” seems more up his alley. I’m thinking Garcia really wrote it, and Mickey just Mickeyed the paperwork while Jerry was distracted for most of the late ’70s.

      • corry342

        I think Hunter wrote the chords. Mickey wrote out the beat. It’s the beat that makes Fire On The Mountain, not the changes. In that respect, it’s a valid co-write.

        It’s fun to make fun of Mickey, but he did bring something to the table.

      • J. Eric Smith

        Besides the dosed jello mold with marshmallows, you mean?

      • J. Eric Smith

        My Top Three Grateful Deads It’s Fun To Make Fun Of:

        1. Keith
        2. Mickey
        3. Keith

    • aikon5110

      The melody of Fire first surfaced on a tune called “Happiness is Drumming” from Mickey’s Diga Rhythm Band album. Of course, the melody is mostly voiced by a guitarist friend of Mickey’s who’s sitting in…

    • toomanyroads

      “Happiness is Drumming”

      Ya Diga it.

      • dj5000000

        Just because someone in the Diga band came up with the melody for Fire in no way excuses the “raps” that Mickey did with the Other Ones in ’97 and such. He has no business singing. No business.

  3. Ryan

    Love this Scarlet/Fire, maybe top 5 version ever. Canadian Dead. Always wondered what is what for the Dead when they crossed the border into Canada for these shows…..

    • Ryan

      *what is was like for the Dead…..

      • spencer

        As a Canadian enthusiast It was nice to not have to cross a border for a change.

  4. tor_haxson

    Hold on.. How are you doing this so fast ?

    My suggestion is 27 minutes long, I assume many of them are that long?

    Just listening takes time..

    I found my suggestion, and I did not even have to get out of begonias before I knew it was the one..

    It had me at begonias..

    Red Rocks Sept 8 1984..

    13 minutes scarlet, 14 minute fire., and still not enough.


    Tor

  5. tor_haxson

    What makes a good scarlet Fire?

    Is it the mutron ? Is it the changly keys, is it the smoking 32nd notes, is it the transition — more subtle than china-rider, more flexible –, is it the drums, is it Phil — this song actually ties Phil into a somewhat structured role.. what is it..what is it..

  6. wilbard

    This S>F is even featured on the Copps Wikipedia page

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FirstOntario_Centre

    • thoughtsonthedead

      It’s worthy of a mention.

    • Ryan

      That made my day really. So cool.

  7. jk

    With solo development like that, the MIDI can be forgiven.

  8. Sir Luther Von Baconson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smmizBibHU

    • Sir Luther Von Baconson

      always mixed up whether Murphy was the Trailer or in the Wheelhouse

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruloAuFazcg

      • spencer

        Canada Cup, Sheila (son of Vic) Copp, grateful Dead 90′, Hamilton is feeling the love.

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